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| gr8guy |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 12:55:09am |
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| I ran Dumar and got an quote 4 $2200 to install and tune? does that sound right? |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 2:11:38am |
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Thats probably about right to do it that way but you can do it cheaper buying direct from Adaptronic and a bit of wiring work yourself.
E420C ECU $ 990.00
0.5m wiring loom $ 66.00
Ingnitor $ 50.00
You may also want to chnage your MAP sensor to a 3 Bar which Adaptronic sell for $ 88.00
You then need to buy a female plug that matches the Cappo standard ECU plugs which you can get for a bout $ 100.00 from suzukigeek.
You can wire the adaptor plug, ignitor & wiring loom yourself or get Adaptronic to do it for around $ 200.00
Information on the wiring diagram, manual and ecu files you would need to load and start driving are here on the site.
It would then be optional for you to get the car dyno tuned. |
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| gr8guy |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 11:08:56am |
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do i really need to buy the female plug? and i don't have an laptop.
overall is adaptronic worth the money?
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 12:05:24pm |
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You don't actually have to buy the plug, the units loom could be wired directly into the cappo loom but you would loose the flexability of being able to plug the original ecu back in if things stoped working properly. I spent 6 weeks having to plug my old ecu back in every morning just to start the engine (took a while to get the cold starting sorted out) then switching back to the adaptronic after about a minute of running the engine.
And you would need a laptop, thats part of the fun of it anyway, being able to plug in and play with what's going on 
And yes I think it's worth the money. You get a lot more flexability than you would from an N1/2 plus a lot of features (traction crontroll, closed loop bost control, turbo timer...) that if you wanted to add to an N1/2 you'd have to pay more money for. And the bonus - it 'learns' your cars own setup, saves a dyno run every time you change something to make sure everythings still working ok. |
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| Avar |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 4:31:29pm |
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Your choice of ECU depends on what mods you want to run on the engine, I'm not sure but aren't the N1 and N2 ecu's designed for the standard 658cc engines? If you go the rebore route you'll eventually need something to help with the fueling, the Adaptronic will have no problems with that and almost anything else you decide to do with the engine.
I'd admit though that in a stock cappo the adaptronic is wasted as it uses the absolute minimal of the ecu with very simple functions to keep the engine happy.
I'm sure there are other options available, i noticed Dany has a few items listed on the site.
The sort of laptop required can be picked up dirt cheap 2nd hand nowadays or most households have an old pc lying in the loft, as long as its 800mhz or more you'll be ok. Stick it in your garage and use it for storing service manuals as well as tuning the ecu.
I'd have to say that getting this ecu is in my top 5 best buys for the last 5 years, just behind getting a cappo  |
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 4:34:32pm |
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I'd have to say that getting this ecu is in my top 5 best buys for the last 5 years, just behind getting a cappo
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I couldn't agree more! well if you substitute AZ-1 for cappo |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 12:17:38am |
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You can probably pick up and old laptop on at a pawn shop with a serial port for less than
$ 100.00. |
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| colinrose |
| Posted on: Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 9:51:57am |
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| Seems to be a helpofatrouble to gain minimal increase performance. Speak to Suzigreekl!! |
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 11:46:48am |
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Seems to be a helpofatrouble to gain minimal increase performance.
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I agree it's a lot of work for a small initial perfomance gain, but you've then got the perfect platform for any future performance upgades.
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Thursday, October 9th, 2008, 6:23:20am |
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Seems to be a helpofatrouble to gain minimal increase performance. Speak to Suzigreekl!!
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I seem to remeber someone saying this in the other thread.
"If this is the case, WOW!!
The so called standard ECU is well in excess of the N2 AND with standard injectors. Why do we bother with mods when a simple piggyback ECU does more than $3.5K performance packages. "
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| Derek |
| Posted on: Saturday, October 11th, 2008, 7:37:46pm |
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| ^ So True! Anything worth having is obviously going to have some work involved, I must agree that the adaptronic is the beez kneez alright!!! Considering all the issues have been pretty much sorted out already by ourselves, If I was considering to buy a programmable ecu for the cappo in the morning, the Adaptronic would be my choice hands down! |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 12:22:45am |
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| You have to remeber that its not just an ECU but more a programable controller with all the extra inputs and outputs if you want to use them. |
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| Avar |
| Posted on: Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 8:31:10am |
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I'd agree with all that, except i'd say the Adaptronic is more a computer than just a controller.
For someone who justs wants an instant no trouble increase in power then it's over the top. But as i want to get the most out of all the works i've done on the car, i can't see a better alternative than a fully programmable unit. Plus when my car goes to he big parts store in the sky, i can re-use this ecu on my next car.
"Piggy back device's are for performing simple parlor tricks, where'as this ECU could probably get you too the moon with the right settings"
I wonder if it would work with HHO setup's. |
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| Avar |
| Posted on: Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 8:57:23am |
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One thing i will say against the Adaptronic is the loom. I am not impressed with the way they cut all unused wires almost right back to the connectors. As its meant to be able to do all these extra things why do this and make further mods very hard to wire up?
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 10:03:38am |
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I couldnt agree more - I wound up buying a set of 'end-on' wire strippers as the only other way to strip the stubs they left us was by using my teeth and I'm running out of those |
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| Avar |
| Posted on: Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 12:10:31pm |
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| There's a technique i use, just need a very sharp stanley knife. Hold your knife blade pointing up, hold the wire onto the blade with your thumb and roll the wire back and forth. It's a simple task and not a major problem if the wire stubs are a bit short, it just bugs me that the guys making up the looms were a bit short sighted. |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Friday, June 4th, 2010, 1:09:23am |
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Just noticed an Alto ECU on ebay out here in OZ for only $ 49.00 AUD. It looks as though it has the same wiring plug as a Cappo ECU.
It would be a cheap option to trash the ECU to just get the plug to adapt to the wiring harness for anyone looking at fitting one. |
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| Ezra |
| Posted on: Wednesday, June 9th, 2010, 10:07:28pm |
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| Wouldn't you need two plugs, male and female, to make a harness extension? |
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Wednesday, June 9th, 2010, 10:41:32pm |
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| No, you only need the female (ecu) side to connect to the Adaptronic harness, then you can just connect the Adaptronic in place of the standard ecu. |
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| Badger |
Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 2:39:52am
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| Is this the Correct Plug...??? |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 5:15:40am |
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| Thats different, a cappo one has 2 plugs not 3. |
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| Badger |
| Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 7:40:22am |
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| grant4561 |
| Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 9:47:33am |
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That one aint right.
At first glace it looks the part but its a different plug so no good.
I have 2 original cappo ecu's stored away just in case I wanted to go back to original but who am I kidding?
THERE IS NO WAY I AM GOING BACK TO THE DARK SIDE
If your keen to go ahead I will send you one. |
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| brett |
| Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 2:10:07pm |
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| That one looks like the ecu / plug for a single cam f6a. |
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| fxdlidon |
| Posted on: Monday, June 21st, 2010, 8:29:10pm |
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I have 2 original cappo ecu's stored away just in case I wanted to go back to original but who am I kidding?
THERE IS NO WAY I AM GOING BACK TO THE DARK SIDE
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I know that feeling |
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